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Ellen Maddow

Ellen Maddow

Composer, Writer, Actor, Mediator, Co-Founder The Talking Band

Interview #194
Photo Credit: Maria Baranova
"We still have a desire to do it…. I don’t know if I would have had a career in the theater if not for this. I don’t think I fit into any other kind of way of being in the theater. I came to playwriting later, started as a performer. I was always interested in making my own stuff. I saw that The Open Theater was doing that so The Talking Band was modeled on the idea that you can make it up and do it yourself."
Ellen Maddow Highlights
Video Length: 15 Minutes, 30 Seconds
Ellen Maddow Interview Part One
Video Length: 1 Hour, 22 Minutes
Ellen Maddow Interview Part Two
Video Length: 1 Hour, 57 Minutes

Part One was conducted at Ellen Maddow's Home via Zoom on July 14, 2023

Part Two was conducted at Casey Childs' Home on September 8, 2023

Ellen Maddow is a composer, playwright, and performer.  She is also trained in mediation -working in community, civil and criminal courts, and in custody and visitation cases.  She also does conflict coaching and family care at The New York Peace Institute.  She worked in The Open Theater, directed by Joseph Chaikin, along with fellow acting members Tina Shepard and Paul Zimet.  Maddow, Shepard and Zimet continued their work together by forming their own company, The Talking Band.  Paul Zimet and Ellen Maddow married.  The three founders write and perform works together and invite collaboration on many of their projects.  The work is regularly challenged to keep the company ‘off balance’ and open to new ideas and possibilities.  The work has found many collaborative venues such as Antioch, Smith College, and the Children’s Theatre of Minneapolis, and Off-Broadway theaters including HERE Arts Center, La Mama E.T.C., P.S. 122, St. John the Divine, St. Mark’s Place, The Flea, and the Connelly Theater.  Maddow has traveled to Ireland, Poland, Moscow, Paris, Serbia, Belgrade, Macedonia, and she has also walked across the United States with Taylor Mac.  Maddow’s list of work includes:  MUTATION SHOW (1969), NIGHTWALK (1969), KALEVALA (1976), THE DYBBUK (1977), WORKSONG (1978), PEDRO PARAMO (1979) SOFT TARGETS (1980), TRISTEN & ISOLT (1982), AN EVENING WITH PABLO NERUDA (1982), GIACONDA (1982), HOT LUNCH APOSTLES(1983), THE BETTY PLAYS (1984), FURIES (1985), BIG MOUTH (1985), THE THREE LIVES OF LUCIE CABROL (1987), LIFE SIMULATOR (1987), NO PLAYS NO POETRY (1988), KRAPP’S LAST TAPE (1989), SOMETHING DANGEROUS: THE BEST OF BETTY SUFFER (1989), NEW CITIES (1989), MALADY OF DEATH (1989), A PAGE OF THE TALMUD (1990), MUSIC RESCUE SERVICE (1990), DOPPLEBETTY & FAKE BOOK (1991), FATA MORGANA (1991) EMPTY BOXES (1992) A PERFECT LIFE (1992), FERN AND ROSE (1992) NINE TO TWELVE (1993), THE BLUE SKY IS A CURSE (1993), LILAC AND FLAG (1994), BETTY SUFFERS THEORY OF RELATIVITY (1995), PERSEPHONE (1996), HOME ENTERTAINMENT(1997), BLACK MILK QUARTET (1998), TILT (1999), HOME/WIRE WALKING (2000), BAD WOMEN (2000), STAR MESSENGERS (2001), BITTERROOT (2001), PAINTED SNAKE IN A PAINTED CHAIR (2003), THE PARROT (2003), BELIZE (2005), THE NECKLACE (2006), DELICIOUS RIVERS (2006), FLIP SIDE (2007), IMMINENCE (2008), BUCCANEER (2008), RADNEVSKY’S REAL MAGIC (2009), PANIC! EUPHORIA! BLACKOUT (2010), NEW ISLANDS ARCHIPELAGO (2010), THE LILY’S REVENGE (2010), THE WALK ACROSS AMERICA FOR MOTHER EARTH (2011) MARCELLUS SHALE (2013), OBSKENE (2013), THE GOLDEN TOAD (2015), FAT SKIRT BIG NOZZLE (2016), BURNISHED BY GRIEF (2016), THE ROOM SINGS (2017), FUSIFORM GYRUS – A SEPTET FOR 2 SCIENTISTS AND 5 HORNS (2018), DANCE NATION (2018), CITY OF NO ILLUSIONS (2018), EFFLORESCENCE (2021), LEMON GIRLS OR ART FOR THE ARTLESS (2022), SHIMMER AND HERRINGBONE (2024), EXISTENTIALISM (2024), THE FOLLOWING EVENING (2024).  Her awards include a Drama Desk Award (2018 DANCE NATION), an Obie (2003 PAINTED SNAKE IN A PAINTED CHAIR), the Frederick Loewe Award for Music Theater (2003/1999), nytheatre.com People of the Year Award (2008), NYC Women’s Fund for Media, Music and Theatre Award (2020).  Grants for Maddow’s work include: Playwrights’ Center National McKnight Fellowship (1997), INTERPLAY – New Dramatists Eastern European Exchange with Czech Republic (2004), New York Foundation for the Arts Fellowship in Playwriting (2006).  She is also  a recipient of the NEA/TCG Theater Residency Program for Playwrights (2007).  Maddow is an alumna of New Dramatists.

Maddow, whose father was a screenwriter, did not get cast often in her Hollywood High School productions as her classmates were mostly professionals-in-the-making.  However, a Milton Berle movie on the subject of teen suicide was seeking non-actors and she was cast because she evoked pity.  Her mother was a dancer with Martha Graham and was on Broadway in Finian’s Rainbow. Both parents took Maddow to New York to see shows, many Off-Broadway, introducing Maddow to Judith Malina and Joe Chaikin in the Living Theatre’s MAN IS MAN.  Going backstage after the matinee, she encountered them in their costumes of underwear.  She thought, ‘I’m going to do that when I grow up!’  Antioch College in Ohio had a work study program and for a year she went to France to study with Etienne Decroux becoming a mime.  Returning to New York she was disillusioned with the formulaic narcissistic, theater she saw and was ready to quit when she got a job as a musician with Joe Chaikin and The Open Theater in TERMINAL.  The actor-based theater company renewed her sense of theatrical possibilities, and she went on to build The Talking Band with Zimet and Shepard, establishing a theater where you ‘can make it up and do it yourself.’

Mentioned in Interview

Liz Dufy Adams, Richard Armstrong, William Badgett, Clare Baron, Raymond J. Barry, Anne Bogart, Rocky Bornstein, Mary Brecht, Abigail Browde, Joe Chaikin, Shami Chaikin, Lisa Davis, Sean Donovan, Beverly Emmons, Adam Gopnik, Peter Gordon, Jonathan Hart, Roy Hart, Molly Hickok, Risa Jaraslow, Anna Kiraly, Ralph Lee, Young Jean Lee, Taylor Mac, Machine Dazzle, Annie-B Parson, The Peripherals, Steven Rattazzi, Bimbo Rivas, Tom Ryan, Mary Schultz, Marjorie Senechal, Sam Shepard, Tina Shepard, Elizabeth Swados, Julie Taymor, Megan Terry, ‘Blue’ Gene Tyranny, Jack Wetherall, Loudon Wainwright, Susan Yankowitz, Paul Zimet, 600 Highwaymen, Antioch College, The Atlantic Theater Company, Big Dance Theater, BITEF Festival (Belgrade), Children’s Theatre of Minneapolis, Clubbed Thumb, Connelly Theater, Dancespace, Exiles Theatre (Ireland), The Flea, HERE Arts Center, La Mama E.T.C., New Dramatists, The Ohio Theatre, The Open Theater, Perelman Arts Center, Playwrights Horizons, P.S. 122, St. John the Divine, Seven Stages (Atlanta), Michael Silverstone, Steppenwolf Theater Company, Smith College, The Talking Band, Target Margin, Theater for the New City, Theater Genesis, 1969 TERMINAL, AN EVENING WITH PABLO NERUDA, BAD WOMEN, BELIZE, THE BETTY PLAYS: BEDROOM SUITE; HOLDING PATTERNS, BETTY BENDS THE BLUES, BETTY SUFFERS THEORY OF RELATIVITY, BIG MOUTH, BITTERROOT, BLACK MILK QUARTET, THE BLUE SKY IS A CURSE, BUCCANEER, BURNISHED BY GRIEF, CITY OF NO ILLUSIONS, DANCE NATION, DELICIOUS RIVERS, DOPPLEBETTY & FAKE BOOK, THE DYBBUK, EFFLORESCENCE, EMPTY BOXES, EXISTENTIALISM, FAT SKIRT BIG NOZZLE, FATA MORGANA, FERN AND ROSE, FLIP SIDE, THE FOLLOWING EVENING, FURIES, FUSIFORM GYRUS – A SEPTET FOR 2 SCIENTISTS AND 5 HORNS, GIACONDA, THE GOLDEN TOAD, HOME ENTERTAINMENT, HOME/WIRE WALKING, HOT LUNCH APOSTLES, IMMINENCE, KALEVALA, KRAPP’S LAST TAPE, LEMON GIRLS OR ART FOR THE ARTLESS, LIFE SIMULATOR, LILAC AND FLAG, THE LILY’S REVENGE, MALADY OF DEATH, MARCELLUS SHALE, MUSIC RESCUE SERVICE, MUTATION SHOW, THE NECKLACE, NEW CITIES, NEW ISLANDS ARCHIPELAGO, NIGHTWALK, NINE TO TWELVE, NO PLAYS NO POETRY, OBSKENE, A PAGE OF THE TALMUD, PAINTED SNAKE IN A PAINTED CHAIR, PANIC! EUPHORIA! BLACKOUT, THE PARROT, PEDRO PARAMO, A PERFECT LIFE, PERSEPHONE, PIG EARTH, RADNEVSKY’S REAL MAGIC, THE ROOM SINGS, SHIMMER AND HERRINGBONE, SOFT TARGETS, SOMETHING DANGEROUS: THE BEST OF BETTY SUFFER, STAR MESSENGERS, THE THREE LIVES OF LUCIE CABROL, TILT, TRISTAN & ISOLT, THE WALK ACROSS AMERICA FOR MOTHER EARTH, WORKSONG.

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